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		<title>By: Chad Roggeman</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 05 Sep 2010 12:17:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Majestic</title>
		<link>http://the2012deception.net/?p=1&#038;cpage=1#comment-1090</link>
		<dc:creator>Majestic</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 26 Jun 2010 00:48:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Wow, you have made some interesting assumptions, just like the 2012 doom and gloomers. You, like most, are totally missing the point about 2012. Its The END of a WORLD SYSTEM, not end of world - we both agree there. The Mayan calendar had &#039;tones&#039; in it. This is because they knew of what is called &#039;The music of the spheres&#039; - the frequencies given off by stars, planets and our sun etc. ALL these frequencies govern the unfoldment and evolution of consciousness. You can learn all about this over at www.lunarplanner.com. Carl Calleman has also hit the nail on the head and outlines the time scale for the baktun cycles and ties them in with major events on Earth. Solar flares, supernovas, earth and planet frequencies all effect the human nervous system which directly effects the evolution of consciousness. So I guess 2012 is not that glamorous afterall... Whilst some things may take place that seem unfair, it&#039;s all a natural part of our evolution. Some may call this a &#039;divine plan&#039; We are also only 3/4 of the way thru the 25630 year precessional cycle, see lunarplanner.com for evidence of this. This is siderial astrology folks, it&#039;s about understanding what we can&#039;t see... Read and learn and dont have any fear, things will come good! Cheers!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wow, you have made some interesting assumptions, just like the 2012 doom and gloomers. You, like most, are totally missing the point about 2012. Its The END of a WORLD SYSTEM, not end of world &#8211; we both agree there. The Mayan calendar had &#8216;tones&#8217; in it. This is because they knew of what is called &#8216;The music of the spheres&#8217; &#8211; the frequencies given off by stars, planets and our sun etc. ALL these frequencies govern the unfoldment and evolution of consciousness. You can learn all about this over at <a href="http://www.lunarplanner.com" rel="nofollow">http://www.lunarplanner.com</a>. Carl Calleman has also hit the nail on the head and outlines the time scale for the baktun cycles and ties them in with major events on Earth. Solar flares, supernovas, earth and planet frequencies all effect the human nervous system which directly effects the evolution of consciousness. So I guess 2012 is not that glamorous afterall&#8230; Whilst some things may take place that seem unfair, it&#8217;s all a natural part of our evolution. Some may call this a &#8216;divine plan&#8217; We are also only 3/4 of the way thru the 25630 year precessional cycle, see lunarplanner.com for evidence of this. This is siderial astrology folks, it&#8217;s about understanding what we can&#8217;t see&#8230; Read and learn and dont have any fear, things will come good! Cheers!</p>
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		<title>By: Dewey ALEXANDER</title>
		<link>http://the2012deception.net/?p=1&#038;cpage=1#comment-1008</link>
		<dc:creator>Dewey ALEXANDER</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 15 May 2010 18:27:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It\\\&#039;s great right here. good study. I have been looked this tips for some time. thanks</description>
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		<title>By: admin</title>
		<link>http://the2012deception.net/?p=1&#038;cpage=1#comment-719</link>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 18 Mar 2010 13:56:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@JesusFreak you certainly missed the point of what I said, I supposed I should be more careful, as there are many people like yourself that hear what they want to hear. 

It will be over for them, but my point was that the mark does something to their heart to sear their will. the effect would be the same, the verse you quoted doesn&#039;t have anything to do with that.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@JesusFreak you certainly missed the point of what I said, I supposed I should be more careful, as there are many people like yourself that hear what they want to hear. </p>
<p>It will be over for them, but my point was that the mark does something to their heart to sear their will. the effect would be the same, the verse you quoted doesn&#8217;t have anything to do with that.</p>
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		<title>By: JesusFreak</title>
		<link>http://the2012deception.net/?p=1&#038;cpage=1#comment-718</link>
		<dc:creator>JesusFreak</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 18 Mar 2010 13:26:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Revelation 14:9-11 &quot;Then a third angel followed them, shouting, “Anyone who worships the beast and his statue or who accepts his mark on the forehead or on the hand must drink the wine of God’s anger. It has been poured full strength into God’s cup of wrath. And they will be tormented with fire and burning sulfur in the presence of the holy angels and the Lamb. The smoke of their torment will rise forever and ever, and they will have no relief day or night, for they have worshiped the beast and his statue and have accepted the mark of his name.”

Stop mixing your own philosophies with God&#039;s word. You don&#039;t have to fill in any blanks. And your assumptions are reckless.

By telling people that you don&#039;t think that taking the mark of the beast means &quot;it&#039;s over for them&quot; is not only wrong, but a lie and could mislead people about the serious consequences of receiving the mark. If you don&#039;t take it, you die. If you do take it, you die. 

Check yourself. Before God does.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Revelation 14:9-11 &#8220;Then a third angel followed them, shouting, “Anyone who worships the beast and his statue or who accepts his mark on the forehead or on the hand must drink the wine of God’s anger. It has been poured full strength into God’s cup of wrath. And they will be tormented with fire and burning sulfur in the presence of the holy angels and the Lamb. The smoke of their torment will rise forever and ever, and they will have no relief day or night, for they have worshiped the beast and his statue and have accepted the mark of his name.”</p>
<p>Stop mixing your own philosophies with God&#8217;s word. You don&#8217;t have to fill in any blanks. And your assumptions are reckless.</p>
<p>By telling people that you don&#8217;t think that taking the mark of the beast means &#8220;it&#8217;s over for them&#8221; is not only wrong, but a lie and could mislead people about the serious consequences of receiving the mark. If you don&#8217;t take it, you die. If you do take it, you die. </p>
<p>Check yourself. Before God does.</p>
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		<title>By: Nowhere To Run with Chris White &#187; Blog Archive &#187; The 2012 Deception &#8211; What it is and Why its Important</title>
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		<dc:creator>Nowhere To Run with Chris White &#187; Blog Archive &#187; The 2012 Deception &#8211; What it is and Why its Important</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 05 Jan 2010 17:19:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: 2012 Deception &#171; The Darkness Masquerades as Light</title>
		<link>http://the2012deception.net/?p=1&#038;cpage=1#comment-519</link>
		<dc:creator>2012 Deception &#171; The Darkness Masquerades as Light</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 20 Dec 2009 20:52:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] If you would prefer a cliff notes version to this refutation (as this presentation is an hour long) you can view a video that I made last year called 2012 Debunked. http://the2012deception.net/?p=1 [...]</description>
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		<title>By: David</title>
		<link>http://the2012deception.net/?p=1&#038;cpage=1#comment-434</link>
		<dc:creator>David</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Dec 2009 03:24:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Saw 2012 this weekend. The science was absent, or barely approached the fringe. Magnetic pole shifts have often happened on this planet, but it involves exchanging the magnetic poles, not the physical poles. The landmasses don&#039;t budge during a magnetic pole shift - that&#039;s how we can see the shift in the geologic record. Second, in the movie Asia moves 1500 miles while the plane is in the air.  Consider that the flight takes 15 hours - then Asia had 15 hours to move 1500 miles. That means the continent was moving at 100 miles an hour.  How much force is required to accelerate a whole continent to a velocity of 100 mph? What happens to the other landmasses and the oceans? How much force is required to STOP the continent from a speed of 100 mph? This is incredibly unbelievable.  They had those people getting off the ark after a month at sea.  I&#039;m guessing Asia is still galloping around the globe after a month. The disruption of the globe caused by a galloping continent makes the Yellowstone eruption seem like a candle in a tornado.  And that ship wouldn&#039;t be afloat, and neither would Africa. Most important, how do neutrinos &quot;mutate&quot;? That&#039;s like saying the protons on the planet have mutated. That&#039;d be very bad I think. And how do &quot;mutated neutrinos&quot; interact ONLY with core? I&#039;m thinking they&#039;d interact with the surface as well, heating the surface and us to melting before the core went super-critical. 

The movie was fun - go see it - but don&#039;t even start to believe it. We need to fund 2 days of curriculum in our schools to combat the wrong thinking it will trigger.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Saw 2012 this weekend. The science was absent, or barely approached the fringe. Magnetic pole shifts have often happened on this planet, but it involves exchanging the magnetic poles, not the physical poles. The landmasses don&#8217;t budge during a magnetic pole shift &#8211; that&#8217;s how we can see the shift in the geologic record. Second, in the movie Asia moves 1500 miles while the plane is in the air.  Consider that the flight takes 15 hours &#8211; then Asia had 15 hours to move 1500 miles. That means the continent was moving at 100 miles an hour.  How much force is required to accelerate a whole continent to a velocity of 100 mph? What happens to the other landmasses and the oceans? How much force is required to STOP the continent from a speed of 100 mph? This is incredibly unbelievable.  They had those people getting off the ark after a month at sea.  I&#8217;m guessing Asia is still galloping around the globe after a month. The disruption of the globe caused by a galloping continent makes the Yellowstone eruption seem like a candle in a tornado.  And that ship wouldn&#8217;t be afloat, and neither would Africa. Most important, how do neutrinos &#8220;mutate&#8221;? That&#8217;s like saying the protons on the planet have mutated. That&#8217;d be very bad I think. And how do &#8220;mutated neutrinos&#8221; interact ONLY with core? I&#8217;m thinking they&#8217;d interact with the surface as well, heating the surface and us to melting before the core went super-critical. </p>
<p>The movie was fun &#8211; go see it &#8211; but don&#8217;t even start to believe it. We need to fund 2 days of curriculum in our schools to combat the wrong thinking it will trigger.</p>
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		<title>By: A.Zeiser</title>
		<link>http://the2012deception.net/?p=1&#038;cpage=1#comment-401</link>
		<dc:creator>A.Zeiser</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 05 Dec 2009 11:44:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I wonder...has anyone ever thought about how the media itself plays a major role in our beliefs about the &quot;end-times&quot; theories?   Never in the history of the world do we receive and pass along information so quickly as we do now at this very point in time.    Over the last century, we have come a very long way from sending mail by horseback or by train, to being able to communicate by cell phone, text messaging, e-mail, sharing information like this via websites, blogs, or forums, even posting video messages via webcams or other video equipment.   There&#039;s no longer a need to have a passport when you can visit another country without having to physically leave your home!!

My point is that we have so much information about anything and everything at our immediate disposal, anytime that we need it, as quickly as we need it, and from whomever we need that information from.   Is it possible, that because infomation moves so much more quickly in our time period, that maybe that&#039;s why we hear about these &quot;rumors-of-wars&quot;??   Over 100 years ago, or even 1000 years ago, one side of the world had no idea what was happening on the other, until many years later, maybe even hundreds.

Is it possible, that all of these hurricanes, forest fires, earthquakes, volcanic activity, and whatever other natural disasters that could possible occur...that they all occur &quot;more often&quot; because we know of them exactly when they happen??   Is it possible that all of these events are actually, in reality, not out of the norm for our planet??   Do we just think that they are happening more often than they did in history because we have the technology now to reach into the farthest corners of the earth and deepest depths of the sea and to farthest reaches the universe that we can know right now exactly when something is happening?

Have all of our scientist and geologists and acheologists and any other &quot;-ist&#039;s&quot; of the world really sat down and compared all of their findings and documented information to see the patterns, to show us, the human race, that the events of today are increasing, or are they just a part of a regular pattern of events throughout the world&#039;s history that our media, extremists, and conspiracy theorists have just hyped up on to get our attention and to distract us from living ordinary lives?

I&#039;m almost 30 years old, and no, I do not have a college degree, nor am I a scholar by any means on any particular subject.   I&#039;m just another lost soul out there seeking answers, but hoping to not be deceived as well.  I grew up in a very Bible-based christian denomination, but as I have gotten older and started to question a lot of what I was taught to believe, and due to certain life-experiences, have changed denominational affiliations a few times and have had the opportunity to learn what different christian denominations believe about the Bible.   I am a man who believes in God, and in Jesus Christ, but I often find it very difficult to believe that every single word in the Bible applies to our culture, our generation, and/or our circumstances of today.

So with the questions I asked above, I&#039;m wondering if the discussions we have here about the year 2012, or any other &quot;end-times&quot; theories floating around out there, if any of this stuff is easier to explain and less complicated than we have made it out to be?    Could it just be because information is more easily obtainable in our generation than it was in generations past and extremist out there are screaming that the end is near when in reality, all of the bad things we hear about everyday are just a part of a natural cycle of events that repeat throuthout history?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I wonder&#8230;has anyone ever thought about how the media itself plays a major role in our beliefs about the &#8220;end-times&#8221; theories?   Never in the history of the world do we receive and pass along information so quickly as we do now at this very point in time.    Over the last century, we have come a very long way from sending mail by horseback or by train, to being able to communicate by cell phone, text messaging, e-mail, sharing information like this via websites, blogs, or forums, even posting video messages via webcams or other video equipment.   There&#8217;s no longer a need to have a passport when you can visit another country without having to physically leave your home!!</p>
<p>My point is that we have so much information about anything and everything at our immediate disposal, anytime that we need it, as quickly as we need it, and from whomever we need that information from.   Is it possible, that because infomation moves so much more quickly in our time period, that maybe that&#8217;s why we hear about these &#8220;rumors-of-wars&#8221;??   Over 100 years ago, or even 1000 years ago, one side of the world had no idea what was happening on the other, until many years later, maybe even hundreds.</p>
<p>Is it possible, that all of these hurricanes, forest fires, earthquakes, volcanic activity, and whatever other natural disasters that could possible occur&#8230;that they all occur &#8220;more often&#8221; because we know of them exactly when they happen??   Is it possible that all of these events are actually, in reality, not out of the norm for our planet??   Do we just think that they are happening more often than they did in history because we have the technology now to reach into the farthest corners of the earth and deepest depths of the sea and to farthest reaches the universe that we can know right now exactly when something is happening?</p>
<p>Have all of our scientist and geologists and acheologists and any other &#8220;-ist&#8217;s&#8221; of the world really sat down and compared all of their findings and documented information to see the patterns, to show us, the human race, that the events of today are increasing, or are they just a part of a regular pattern of events throughout the world&#8217;s history that our media, extremists, and conspiracy theorists have just hyped up on to get our attention and to distract us from living ordinary lives?</p>
<p>I&#8217;m almost 30 years old, and no, I do not have a college degree, nor am I a scholar by any means on any particular subject.   I&#8217;m just another lost soul out there seeking answers, but hoping to not be deceived as well.  I grew up in a very Bible-based christian denomination, but as I have gotten older and started to question a lot of what I was taught to believe, and due to certain life-experiences, have changed denominational affiliations a few times and have had the opportunity to learn what different christian denominations believe about the Bible.   I am a man who believes in God, and in Jesus Christ, but I often find it very difficult to believe that every single word in the Bible applies to our culture, our generation, and/or our circumstances of today.</p>
<p>So with the questions I asked above, I&#8217;m wondering if the discussions we have here about the year 2012, or any other &#8220;end-times&#8221; theories floating around out there, if any of this stuff is easier to explain and less complicated than we have made it out to be?    Could it just be because information is more easily obtainable in our generation than it was in generations past and extremist out there are screaming that the end is near when in reality, all of the bad things we hear about everyday are just a part of a natural cycle of events that repeat throuthout history?</p>
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		<title>By: The 2012 Deception &#187; Blog Archive &#187; The 2012 Deception (Everything you need to know about 2012)</title>
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		<dc:creator>The 2012 Deception &#187; Blog Archive &#187; The 2012 Deception (Everything you need to know about 2012)</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Nov 2009 15:34:33 +0000</pubDate>
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